But on the other hand, we should show respect to the training results of this young girl. Why no one wetsern climbing association invitites her to join the training in their youth training camps for a while? This would be an alternative to that experience to be trained from fathter in that age and share experiences with other youngsters - its so important in that age! Where are the youth mountainers and leaders among the readers of that article? Who invitate her for youth training course?!
In Germany in such cases it will be criminal offense at court named: Child welfare endangerment so that only the idea like this nobody can start to realize.
What do you mean talking to myself?
is it fun talking to yourself?
no he means a girl - she is a girl. he is not making a commentary on male vs female stereotypes - he is just stating the facts
Firstly, i could not summit Khosar Gung becuase i got a severe cough. Secondly, i did not go on shoulder of any porter. If i did share some proof
True and she still hasn't apologized for the wrong things she wrote she has just quietly removed them
I always wanted to start the climb, never did i say i never wanted to start the climb, its just this fake article spreading lies about me.
That is actually really good advice, I will defiantly talk to my papa about this though i will be older than 13 next year
Those so called "drugs" is Vitamin C(Kirkland Tablet Form) and my papa gave everyone a whole lecture on why vitamins are important for anyone to take.
True.
My papa doesn't even know how to use Instagram or twitter, he only knows how to use Facebook. How in the world can he impersonate me?
Yes. A most deplorable action by the father.
If she is in fact the one reprimanding Angela in this thread, all is even more worrisome.
But I suspect it's the person you met trying to further justify his carelessness by impersonating this young girl.
Once again young lady, and I say this with a kind heart - you need help. And it seems like home is not where you will find it.
Having met his father near Broad Peak BC (see my comment above), I fully concur with your assessment about his father.
We met Selena and his father early July, on our way back from K2 BC to Concordia. They walked in the opposite direction, towards Broad Peak BC. Selena walked with a guide/porter, and her father followed them from 20 meters away.
While Selena did not say a word to us, we had a several minute discussion with her father. He started with saying that he had, and is having health issues and openly admitted that he started the trip against the advice of his doctors. He said the mountains had healing powers, and that he ripped a catether out of himself, right before the trip. He also urged us to like and follow Selena's social media accounts and seemed weirdly desperate for this kind of attention.
I am sorry to say that Selena's father did not strike me as a responsible adult, and I contemplated informing authorities about the situation. We jokingly talked about whether we can use the InReach SOS button in situations like this.
I leave it to everyone to decide whether it is a responsible thing to start your trek and attempt to climb a 8k mountain with your 12 year old daughter, knowing that you are severely ill.
When I read here that his father got evacuated by a helicopter, I was not surprised at all. And him leaving his daughter alone in the camp further supports my theory that nothing is too expensive for his father in exchange for some social media attention.
1.At age 12 she is not mentally or legally capable of assessing risk.
2.Children are at higher risk of HAPE because their pulmonary vasculature is more reactive.
3. Her lean mass will also make her more prone to hypothermia.
Can she physically do it? Sure. But climbing big mountains is much more than strength or endurance. Does she think she can do it? Of course! The Roman's knew this well and called their youngest troops infantry for a reason. At this age and well into adolescence, they feel invincible.
If you read this young lady, I suggest you stick with this incredible sport, but until you are 18,study weather, geology, mountains, high altitude physiology, and some paleontology which is always fun to to know about when you run into ammonites or other ancient fossils in the Himalayas.
The mountains will wait for you.
As for the father, I suggest you visit with a psychiatrist since all you are doing is feeding your daughter's misplaced Electra complex. She wishes to please you blindly and with risky feats. If anything ever happens to her, it would be 100% your responsibility.
Angela is a terrible reporter! Twists, lies and misleads. You should be writing columns in celebrity magazines or something
Objective?
Unbiased? Are you sure?
Pay me enough money and I'll take her up. I've never been on Broad Peak and don't know what I'm doing, but give me $4 million USD and I'll figure it out.
My guess is it would cost a lot less money to find a Pakistani HAP who would at least give a half effort to bring her somewhat close to the summit.
As far as I can tell all of the "serious" climbers on Broad Peak kept their mouths shut about this situation until after they had abandoned their own attempts. If this girl had started out at 0400 in the morning with a random guide/porter no one would have stopped them. The only reason that girl didn't end up 7000 meters up the mountain is because she herself never wanted to start the climb.
Edit: ...To be clear...I agree with everyone that it was an absolutely horrible idea for her father to leave her alone to climb this mountain.
The tweets were not uploaded by me, they are as a reply to people.
Yes, a child. There is some difference between a boy and a girl, but it's too little to be significant on 8000m. Pushing your child to break age records on the highest mtns is iresponsible, even crazy.
I am not a person that writes a story a caption should be short and precise.
Just fixed?! Don't you think morality is something? Shouldn't you have apologized for quoted false and rubbish sources, do you have any proof of other lies you told? Shame on you and your reckless reporting. I wish you had the least bit of moral authority.
Do you mean a child? Because at 12 there may be little difference between a boy and a girl as far as strength and endurance go.
Seems like it is probably just her father who made the account.
Language-related mentioned fixed, thank you.
She may well speak perfect English, but I don't think you could come to that conclusion from the very short captions on her Instagram (@mountainprincess92 for anyone wanting to look).
@Don Paul - the tweets are still there. Check the replies to Angela's tweets.
I just checked twitter, found her account but not any of these tweets. They appear to have been deleted. It's a matter for the Pakistani police, or child protective services.
There have been many cases of random people creating accounts under climbers' names and then spreading false info while pretending to be them.
What do you mean by another imposter?
PS: Is it not "Manglik/Minglik Sar"? I'm pretty sure it is. I don't know where this confusion has come from but it has spread fairly recently.